Choosing turbine housings

turbine housing

Often when building custom turbos people will want to make a good deal of power and still have decent spool time. The best way to accomplish great spool up on a higher flowing turbo is to put a smaller turbine housing on it. A good example is taking a holset hx40 and replacing the factory .89 a/r housing and replacing it with a bep .55 a/r bep housing for a dsm.  The hx40 with the bep housing will be limited to 550-600 hp range instead of the 700 hp mark that people have made with the .89 a/r, but the spool time will increase which makes the turbo more streetable.  Another good example is having us machine a garrett t3 .63 a/r turbine housing to fit an hx35 or hx40. This will limit what this turbo is capable of flowing, but it will bring down the capable flow rates of the turbo down to size with a smaller engine to help spool time and over all efficiency. A good example is if you pair an hx35 with a 16 cm^2 turbine housing with a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder motor. If the car can ever spool that turbo up it will make huge amounts of power, but it wont start seeing boost until around 5,500 rpm in 3rd gear. If you had us machine a .63 a/r turbine housing for the same hx35, then the spool time will be moved to the 3,000-4000 rpm range depending on your boost level and it will still be capable of 450-500 hp.  The turbine housing choice that is best for your application depends on the displacement and number of cylinders of the engine that you are turbo charging.  Another deciding factor is what kind of power you are looking to make and drivability. When choosing a turbine housing you are sacrificing capable horsepower for spool time.

Often people will ask: should I go t4 or should I go t3 for my exhaust housing? This best way to answer this is by asking your self what kind of HP you want to make, and what kind of spool time you want to see. Also keep in mind the motor that you are using too. If its a 2.0 and your trying to make 450 awhp and you want to have decent spool time, I would recommend that you choose a t3 .63 a/r turbine housing or close. If you are turbocharging a 5.0 v8, the motor is naturally flowing 5 liters of air, so it makes sense that you need to used a larger turbine turbine housing in the t4 format to avoid choking the flow of the engine at higher rpm.  If you want decent spool time you want to put a turbo on the car that has flow rates close to the engine. If you use a turbo that flow less than the motor at 6500 rpm, then at 6500 rpm at wide open throttle you will feel the car stop pulling because the motor is having a hard time flowing more air because turbo turbo is limiting the flow. The fix for this would be to upgrade the turbine housing or the turbine wheel and compressor wheel. A good example is an evo 9 20g that we built that made 493 awhp, but the car choked at 6500. We never upgraded the turbine shaft of this turbo so the measurement were 52mm x 68mm for the compressor wheel and 49mm x 55.6mm for the turbine wheel. The reason the car was capable of 493whp, is because the turbine housing is twin scroll and 10.5 cm from the factory. If we wanted to help the car pull harder in the higher rpm range, we upgrade the turbine shaft to a tdo6h4R (58mm x 67mm) or tdo6sl2R turbine (54mm x 61mm). Though both turbines would help the turbo pull to redline, the tdo6sl2 turbine would be the best for spool time and the tdo6h4R turbine would be better for more power. The main reason why we upgrade the turbine wheels in most turbos that we build is because it is very limited for the turbine housing sizes for factory cars. In most cases there are no upgraded turbine housings, so we upgrade the turbine shafts as an alternative, which works better if your trying to retain some of your spool time.

There is not  a direct conversion for an A/R to cm^2 estimate but this chart works well for an estimate. 

Turbine housing

A/R to cm^2 estimate

6 cm2 = 0.41 A/R

7 cm2 = 0.49 A/R

8 cm2 = 0.57 A/R

9 cm2 = 0.65 A/R

10 cm2 = 0.73 A/R

11 cm2 = 0.81 A/R

12 cm2 = 0.89 A/R

14 cm2 = 0.97 A/R

15 cm2 = 1.05 A/R

16 cm2 = 1.13 A/R

17 cm2 = 1.29 A/R

19 cm2 = 1.37 A/R

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26 thoughts on “Choosing turbine housings

  1. Josh

    hi im looking for a 7cm turbine housing for my dsm 14b turbo as my stock one cracked. do you have thoes?
    thanks again josh

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    1. Austin Post author

      Yes we sell them. I mostly like on ebay to keep it simple since the store doesnt work. I can offer them with the factory MHI flapper arm or welded for external WG. Anyway you want.

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  2. kendall wallen

    Hi im looking for a turbine housing for my fp hta88 bb turbo. The turbine wheel size is 71mm inducer and 62mm exducer p trim. I been wanting to know what turbine housing it is. And im looking for t3 82 ar 4 bolt

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  4. Dane

    I have a holset HX35w with a 12cm^2 hot side. Im trying to see if I can get this to spool for a VW 2.0TSI. Im sure it will but at high RPMs. What can I do to lower the spool closer to 3000? Is this turbo even a good match for my engine?

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  5. monibe Hussain

    what type of material do use to make your turbine housing and can give percentage of each alloying element and what it is and why use this particular material. I am uni student doing an materials assignment on turbos and this would really help in my research thanks.

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  6. doug

    I have a SBC 350 cu 8.5 venolia pistons scat rods SGI billet crancshaft pro comp 210 cc heads 280 h camshaft with v max rhoads lifters set 15thou intake 35 thou exh lash studs top and bottom….. dual quad blow through custom log manifolds twin t4 Garrett 1.3 a/r on center. Only getting 4 psi @ 6500 rpm . Need suggestions for new turbine housings to achieve 16-20 psi. Also 18 lbs vacuum at idle thanks to the rhoads.

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  7. luis

    I have a hx35 and want to put a gt35r exhaust housing t3 but it wont fit it needs to be machined out .could you do this and how much ? And will this turbo give me close to 500 hp i have a fully built 4g63 on dsm link and 1150 cc fic

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    1. Austin Post author

      You have to start with a Journal Bearing Garrett turbine Housing, You cant use the Garrett Ball Bearing Turbine Housing to put on and HX35 or hx40.

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  8. Ryan

    Hey I have an already Custom .64 a/r HotSide for My Car and its mated To a efr6758. i Want to mate it to a efr 7163 which is a little Larger. Could You fab This?

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  9. Nik I'Anson

    Hi, im after a smaller turbine housing for my hx40, its currently on a 14cm but im after something more in the 0.70 a/r range, external gate, 3 inch v band exhaust. Could you supply me one? If so how much to the uk??

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      1. Austin Post author

        i can make you one. what exactly are you looking for? a t3? and the .82 maybe the best one to go with. what is your engine size?

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    1. Austin Post author

      no. The HY bearing housing requires a vband. The HX bearing housing will fit, if the turbine housing is machined. we offer the machining service for 100$

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  13. Ryan Bennett

    Hello I have a GT3071r IWG turbo for a mazdaspeed 6 and I am looking to upgrade to a GTX3576r.

    To save some cost I am curious if my GT30 exhaust housing can be machined to fit the GT35 turbine?

    Thanks,

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    1. Austin Post author

      I’m not sure if the wheel will physically fit or not. I can machine it but I don’t know what the result would be.

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  14. Patryk

    I have a HX35W and am after a 0.63ar exhaust housing. Can I buy one off the shelf or would I need to source one and machine it? If so what turbo would I need to take it off and what machining processes would it require?
    Thanks

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